The Penguin Podcast features world-class thinkers and pioneers from publishing and beyond.  Join them as they ask their guests to bring in five objects to the Penguin studios that have inspired their work

in this episode, broadcaster and journalist Dame Jenni Murray talks to Nihal Arthanayake about her new book ‘Fat Cow, Fat Chance’, what it’s like to be labelled fat when society dictates skinny as the norm.